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Old 04-20-2008, 02:19 PM
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Maine app ki puri post pari hai aur InsahAllah jald hee app ko Waseela per buhat saray Saboot Quran o Hadith say pesh karon ga. InsahAllah...
Kabhi humari kisi Book main app ne para hai ke kisi ne kaha ho Allah say nah mango balkay kisi Wali say mango ke woh Tumhain Rizq dai aur tumhari Mushkilat asan karai ?
Humara Aqida hai ke Allah ke Nabi, Farishty aur Naik Banday humari madad karty hain per Allah ki ata say.
Aghar Allah nah cahay tu koi humari madad nahi kar sakta.
App say aik Question hai ke hum Allah say Allah ke Nabion ya Naik Bando ke Waseela say dua kartay hain ke Allah humare Rizq main barkat ata farmai per main aghar kisi Office main Job karta hon jahan meri Monthly Tankhawa 4,000 Pakistani Rupes hain tu main apne Office ke Malikk say kehta hon ke meri Tankhawa 4,000 say 5,000 kar do tu kiya main Mushrik hoo gaya ?
midtown phir app ko apnay aqeedah ka ilm hee nahin.
isi leyai too app ghair allah say aour allah say madad mangnay kay farq ko nahin samjh rahay.
app nay jo tankhwa wali baat ke to bahi main nay apnee pehlee post main yehee to samjhya tha kay agar app kay malik kay pass asbaab mojod hain to woh app ke madad mar sakta hay warna nahin. haan aour aisee madad talb karna kowee shirk bhee nahin.
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Aakhir Tum Logoon Ko Sirf Allah Say Madad Mangnay Main Kiya Takleef Hay.kiya Allah In Logono Kay Baighair Tum Logon Ke Madad Nahin Kar Sakta . Hairat Hay Kay Yeh Hee Aqeedah Mushrikeen Ka Bhee Tha. Kay Allah To Hay Hee Yeh Jo 360 Hain Yeh Bhee Us Kay Madad Gar Hain.in Say Bhee Madad Mangoo.inalillah Hay Wa Ina Elaihee Rajioon.
Bhai app maray aik sawaal ka jab dain agar app ki qualifications boohat achi nai hain aur app ko job hasil karni hai to app kia karin gay.... Ya Rishwat Dain gay ya sifarish karin gay....

hum bhi buss ALLAH kay naiq loogoun say ja kar kahtay hain kay app humari bhi ALLAH say Sifarish kar dain....

Umeed karta houn app baat ko samajh gay houn gay....

agar ab bhi koi misunderstanding hai to app bolain.
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Maine app ki puri post pari hai aur InsahAllah jald hee app ko Waseela per buhat saray Saboot Quran o Hadith say pesh karon ga. InsahAllah...
Kabhi humari kisi Book main app ne para hai ke kisi ne kaha ho Allah say nah mango balkay kisi Wali say mango ke woh Tumhain Rizq dai aur tumhari Mushkilat asan karai ?
Humara Aqida hai ke Allah ke Nabi, Farishty aur Naik Banday humari madad karty hain per Allah ki ata say.
Aghar Allah nah cahay tu koi humari madad nahi kar sakta.
App say aik Question hai ke hum Allah say Allah ke Nabion ya Naik Bando ke Waseela say dua kartay hain ke Allah humare Rizq main barkat ata farmai per main aghar kisi Office main Job karta hon jahan meri Monthly Tankhawa 4,000 Pakistani Rupes hain tu main apne Office ke Malikk say kehta hon ke meri Tankhawa 4,000 say 5,000 kar do tu kiya main Mushrik hoo gaya ?

I Agree with Midtown Bhai
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Bhai app maray aik sawaal ka jab dain agar app ki qualifications boohat achi nai hain aur app ko job hasil karni hai to app kia karin gay.... Ya Rishwat Dain gay ya sifarish karin gay....

hum bhi buss ALLAH kay naiq loogoun say ja kar kahtay hain kay app humari bhi ALLAH say Sifarish kar dain....

Umeed karta houn app baat ko samajh gay houn gay....

agar ab bhi koi misunderstanding hai to app bolain.
jazakallah khairan bahi app kay samjhanay ka.magar bahi aik baat isi ziman main aour arz karoon gha. agar to app us officer ko jantay hain to phir app ko kisi sifarish ke zaroorat nahin paray ghee aour app seedha us officer say ja kar chahay us kay ghar ya office jahan bhee woh milay gha app mil lain ghay .haan agr app us officer ko nahin jantay too phir to sifarish ke zaroorat paray ghee.
abb app khud faisla kar lain kay app allah ko jantay hain kay nahin.app ka allah say kowee rabta hay kay nahin.bara he seedha sa masala hay kowee uljaoo nahin is main. bahi.jazakallah.
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BILAKUL BAJA farmaya app ne Asim Bhai Main App ki baat se bilkul Mutafik hon MIDTOWN bhai Qurani Ayyat ki tafseer se achi tarha ahga nahi hain issi liye tu inn ka aaqeeda bhi darust nahi hai
aur han meri sab bhiaon se guzarish hai ke agar app ne koi tahqeeq ki hai tu wo sahi toor se Quran o hadis se mutaliya ke baad hi post karain iss se aam mere jaisa banda ghalat simt janae se bach sakta hai
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Allah Allah Karte Raho Sari Umar Beth Ke Bhai Jamat Mai Jate Ho Tabligh Ki Pet Bahar Nikal Aaye Hain Tumhare Kon Si Tablegh Kar Rahe Ho....allah Ek Hai Rasool Hai Ye Tu Sab Ko Pata Hai...deen Ki Mehnat Karo...ye Bhi Sab Ko Pata Hai...aur Agar Nabi Pak Nahi Batate Ke Allah Ek Hai Ya Allah Ka Wajod Hai Tu Kya Tum Deobandiyo Ko Jibril Aleh Salam Aake Batate...tum Tu Dosro Ki Bat Pe Yaqen Nahi Karte Ho Sabot Dikha Do Jab Bhi...

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Allah Allah Karte Raho Sari Umar Beth Ke Bhai Jamat Mai Jate Ho Tabligh Ki Pet Bahar Nikal Aaye Hain Tumhare Kon Si Tablegh Kar Rahe Ho....allah Ek Hai Rasool Hai Ye Tu Sab Ko Pata Hai...deen Ki Mehnat Karo...ye Bhi Sab Ko Pata Hai...aur Agar Nabi Pak Nahi Batate Ke Allah Ek Hai Ya Allah Ka Wajod Hai Tu Kya Tum Deobandiyo Ko Jibril Aleh Salam Aake Batate...tum Tu Dosro Ki Bat Pe Yaqen Nahi Karte Ho Sabot Dikha Do Jab Bhi...

Allah Allah Se Kuch Nahi Milta
Allah Wale Hain Jo Allah Se Mila Dete Hain
Maine Asim aur Dosray Aitraaz karne walay Bhaion say pocha ke Mujhe Ya Rasool Allah pukarne ki momaniat Quran o Hadith say dekhao per inhon ne ajj tak nahi dekhai.
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Maine Asim aur Dosray Aitraaz karne walay Bhaion say pocha ke Mujhe Ya Rasool Allah pukarne ki momaniat Quran o Hadith say dekhao per inhon ne ajj tak nahi dekhai.
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bahi is tarha kay sawal kar kay kiya app apni bat manwa saktay hain. is tarha kay sawal to bachay aik dosray ko chairnay kay leyai kartay hain.app bhee jantay hain aour main bhee quran is qisam ke batoon kay leyai nahin.\
bahi baat too baree sedhee see baat hay kay jab aik shakhs app kay samnay hee nahin to app usay kis tarha pukar saktay hain.main kisi ilmi behs main nahin parta , bulkay aik logical sawal yeh pochta hoon kay jab nabi akram saw humray samnay hain hee to phir app kis ko bula rahay hain.app nay aik telephone ke misal bhee dee hay to bahi agar asbab mojod hoon to app kisi say bhee baat kar saktay hain.magar baighair asbab kay to kisi ko pukrna sirf allah kay leyai hay.kiuon woh samee o baseer hay ,aour yeh taqat siwayai allah kay aour kisi kay pass bhee nahin. is leyai mairay bahi agar app saw humaray samnay hoon to hum zaroor app saw ko ya keh kar pukarain ghay , warna nahin.[/font]
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bahi is tarha kay sawal kar kay kiya app apni bat manwa saktay hain. is tarha kay sawal to bachay aik dosray ko chairnay kay leyai kartay hain.app bhee jantay hain aour main bhee quran is qisam ke batoon kay leyai nahin.\
bahi baat too baree sedhee see baat hay kay jab aik shakhs app kay samnay hee nahin to app usay kis tarha pukar saktay hain.main kisi ilmi behs main nahin parta , bulkay aik logical sawal yeh pochta hoon kay jab nabi akram saw humray samnay hain hee to phir app kis ko bula rahay hain.app nay aik telephone ke misal bhee dee hay to bahi agar asbab mojod hoon to app kisi say bhee baat kar saktay hain.magar baighair asbab kay to kisi ko pukrna sirf allah kay leyai hay.kiuon woh samee o baseer hay ,aour yeh taqat siwayai allah kay aour kisi kay pass bhee nahin. is leyai mairay bahi agar app saw humaray samnay hoon to hum zaroor app saw ko ya keh kar pukarain ghay , warna nahin.[/font]
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jamiya tirmazi babul manaqib (mnaqibe hazrat ABUBAKAR R.A) bab no. 548 hadith number 1609 page no.693

mishkat sharif kitabul fitun manaqibe abubakar r.a page no. 225
tirmazi nay is hadith ko hassan sahih likha hay..
mishkat sharif main ya hadith abudaod sharif kay hawlay say naqal hay
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Agarn In Jawabaat Se Tashaffi Na Ho To Mazeed Dalaail Bhi Pesh Ker Sakta Hoon
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jamiya tirmazi babul manaqib (mnaqibe hazrat ABUBAKAR R.A) bab no. 548 hadith number 1609 page no.693

mishkat sharif kitabul fitun manaqibe abubakar r.a page no. 225
tirmazi nay is hadith ko hassan sahih likha hay..
mishkat sharif main ya hadith abudaod sharif kay hawlay say naqal hay
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bahi app plz bura na mannain , main is qisam kay fatwoon ko nahin manta jo yak tarfa hoon.dono taraf kay dalail sun kar humain khud faisala karna chaheyai.
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[quote=asim10;1026967]is leyai mairay bahi agar app saw humaray samnay hoon to hum zaroor app saw ko ya keh kar pukarain ghay , warna nahin.QUOTE]

Bhai Allah ne Rasool Nabi Kareem (S.A.W) ko sub per Gawah bana kar bheja Quran ne isse liye Rasool Nabi Kareem (S.A.W) ko sahid aur mubashir kaha aur sahid woh hota hai jo har jaagah mojod ho.
App yeh batain app ne Kabhi Allah ko dekha hay ?
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bahi app plz bura na mannain , main is qisam kay fatwoon ko nahin manta jo yak tarfa hoon.dono taraf kay dalail sun kar humain khud faisala karna chaheyai.
BURA MAANNAY WALI BAAT HI NAHIN YEH TO IMAAN KA MUAMLA HAI,
MAIN YAHAN PER FATWA NAHIN MANWA RAHA BALKE US FATWA MAIN PESH KERDAH AYAT OR AHADEES DALEEL KI SOORAT MAIN PERSH KER RAHA HOON

AP KO IS KUCH TO JAWAB TO DENA THA IS LIYE AAP NE DO JUMLAY LIKHD DIYE ????


KIA YEH AHADEES DALEEL NAHIN SIRF IS KA JAWAB CHAHIYE NA ZARA SA IDHAR NA ZARA SA UDHAR ????????
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jamiya tirmazi babul manaqib (mnaqibe hazrat ABUBAKAR R.A) bab no. 548 hadith number 1609 page no.693

mishkat sharif kitabul fitun manaqibe abubakar r.a page no. 225
tirmazi nay is hadith ko hassan sahih likha hay..
mishkat sharif main ya hadith abudaod sharif kay hawlay say naqal hay
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Assalam U Alikum All,

Asim Tum Is Qisam Ke Yak Tarfa Fatwe Nahi Mante....tu Ye Bata Do Ke Deoband Wale Jo Fatwa Dete Hain Kon Sa Do Tarfa Hota Hai....quran Jo Keh Raha Hai Tum Nahi Mano Ge Tu Munkir Kehlao Ge...aur Aga Rutm Apne App Ko Munkir Kehelwana Pasand Karte Ho Tu Theek Hai ....kehelwate Raho.....agar App Ke Darul Ulom Deoband Se Fatwa Liya Jaye Tu Wo Bhi Yak Tarfa Hoga...but Us Waqt Kyo Chup Lag Jati Hai Tumhe
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Fatwa hum iss liye nahi laity ke hum ne kisi Alim ki baat mann ne hai balky Shoiab bhai wali baat Fatwa iss liye laity hain ke uss main jo Quranic Ayat aur Ahadith pesh ki gai hain maqsad unn ka hota hai.
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Nisbat aur waseela bari cheez hota hey. jis ka peer nahi us ka peer shaitan hota hey. aur haan yea tou mushrik kehtey hain in sey mat jhagro. allah ney in key dilon per mohrain laga di hain yea nahi samajney waley. Aur yea jo 1-1 feet ki dari rakhtey hain aur shalwaron ko tou bilkul pajama bananey waley hain. kuch days baad yea gutnon sey ooper hon gi. in logon key barey main hi Hazoor SAW ney farmaya tha key chalo falan bin falan tum nikal jao kion key tum allah sey tou mohabbat rakhtey ho magar us key habeeb sey bughz rakhtey ho. Tou jo Nabi SAW aur Allah walon ka nahi ho saka wo hamara bhi na ho saka. in ko karney dou jo kartey hain.
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Bhai Allah ne Rasool Nabi Kareem (S.A.W) ko sub per Gawah bana kar bheja Quran ne isse liye Rasool Nabi Kareem (S.A.W) ko sahid aur mubashir kaha aur sahid woh hota hai jo har jaagah mojod ho.
App yeh batain app ne Kabhi Allah ko dekha hay ?
YAAR GHOST BAHI YEHEE TO MAIN KEHTA HOO JAB BHEE INSAN KISI KAY PEECAHY ANDHA DHUND CHALAY GHA YEHE HOO GHA.BAHI YEH AYAT US WAQAT KE HAIN JAB APP SAW IS DUNIYA MAIN MOJOD THAY.AOUR IS KE DALEEL IS SAY AGAL LAFZ HAY, JO APP NAY KHUD CODE KIYA HAY.YANI MUBASHAR.AOUR MUBASHAR KA MATLAB ACHI YA BURI KHABR DAINAY WALA.AOUR YEH JAB APP SAW ZINDA THAY USEE WAQAT HOTA THA.AJJ KAL KIYA APP SAW KOWEE KHABAR DAITAY HAIN NAHIN .IS LEYAI YEH AYAT AP SAW KAY HAYAT KAY WAQAT KEE HAIN.JAZAKALLAH KHAIRAN.
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Kia Yeh Ahadees Daleel Nahin Sirf Is Ka Jawab Chahiye Na Zara Sa Idhar Na Zara Sa Udhar ????????
yehee To Main Keh Raha Hoon Kay Dalail To Dono Taraf Say Hain Abb Humain Dekhna Yeh Hay Kay Mazboot Kis Kay Dalail Hain.aour Mera Khiyal Hay Kay App Bhee Yehee Usoool Rakhtay Hoon Hgya. Kay Daleel Wohee Qabilay Qabool Ho Ghe To Jo Sahih Ho. Inshallah.
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Assalam U Alikum All,

Asim Tum Is Qisam Ke Yak Tarfa Fatwe Nahi Mante....tu Ye Bata Do Ke Deoband Wale Jo Fatwa Dete Hain Kon Sa Do Tarfa Hota Hai....quran Jo Keh Raha Hai Tum Nahi Mano Ge Tu Munkir Kehlao Ge...aur Aga Rutm Apne App Ko Munkir Kehelwana Pasand Karte Ho Tu Theek Hai ....kehelwate Raho.....agar App Ke Darul Ulom Deoband Se Fatwa Liya Jaye Tu Wo Bhi Yak Tarfa Hoga...but Us Waqt Kyo Chup Lag Jati Hai Tumhe
YAAR HASSAN BAHI APP NAY SHAYAD MAIREE PEHLEE HE POST PARHEE HAY.MAIN NAY AJJ TAK KISI BHEE ALIM KA HAWALA NAHIN DIYA. JAB BHEE BAAT KE QURAN O HADITH SAY BAAT KEE.MUJHAY NA TO DEOBANDION SAY NA BARAILVION SAY NA AHLAY HADITONN SAY KOWEE HAMDAREEDE HAY NA MAIN IN MAIN SAY KISI KO FOLLOW KARTA HOON.IN MAKATIB FIKAR MAIN SAY KOWEE ALIM QURAN O SAHIH HADITH KAY MUTABIQ JO BHEE FATWA DAY WOH MAIRAY LEYAI QABIL QABOOL HAY.JAZAKALLAH.
AIK AOUR DOST HAY JINHOON NAY UPER ISI QISAM KE POST KEE YEH JAWAB UN KAY LEYAI BHEE HAY.
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Nisbat aur waseela bari cheez hota hey. jis ka peer nahi us ka peer shaitan hota hey.
BAHI SUNNY SAHIB AJJ ISI PEEREE FAQEEREE NAY TO HUMAREE YEH HALAT KEE HAY KAY HUM DEEN SAY NIKAL KAR SHIRK KAY MUBTILA HO GAYAI.AJJ MUSLMAN ,QBARA PARAST BAN CHUKA HAY ,TAWEEZ DHGOON KAY CHAKAR PAR CHUKA HAY.KHATMOON KAY ZAREEYAI APNA RIZQ MAIN IZAFA KARNA CHAHTA HAY.ALLAH KAY ILAWA BHEE KAYEE ELAH BANA CHUKA HAY .HER WOH KAAM JO MUSHRIKEEN MAKKA KARTAY THAY AJJ MUSHRIKEEN PAKISTAN KARTAY HAIN AOUR DALAIL BHEE QURAN O HADITH SAY DAITAY HAIN,AOUR YEH SUB KUCH IN PERRON FAKEEROONKAY CHAKAR MAIN HOWA.YEH LOG APNA KHARCHA HUM SAY PORA KARNAY KAY LEYAI HUMAIN GHUMRAH KAR RAHAY HAIN.LAIKIN HUM SHMJTAY NAHIN AOUR IN KAY PEECHAY LAGAY HOWAY HAIN.
APP NAY JOO BAAT KE HAY YEH GHAIR SHARAYEE HAY , SHARIYAT KE ROO SAY HUMARAY SIRF AIK HE USTAD O MULIM O PEER O MURSHAD HAIN AOUR WOH HAIN NABI AKRAM SAW.

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APP NAY YEH ALFAZ SUNATOON KAY KHILAF KAHAY HAIN MAGAR KOWEE BHEE BARAILVI APP SAY NAHIN POCHAY GHA KAY APP NAY AISA KIUON KAHA WOH IS LEYAI KAY APP AIK WAHABI KO ZALEEL KAR RAHAY HAIN , AOUR AIK WAHABI KE ZILAT TO BARAILVI KISI BHEE QEEMAT PER BARDASHAT KAR LAIN GHAY.CHAHAY SUNNATOON KAY BADALAY HEE SAHIH.
APP NAY KAHA KAY 1 FEET KE DARI RAKHTAY HAIN.JO JANAB AHDITH MAIN ATA HAY KAY NABI AKARM SAW KE DHAREE MUBARAK SEENAY TAK THEE AOUR YEH TAQREEBAN 1 FOOT KAY LAG BHAG HE BANTEE HAY .APP NAY JO DHARI KA MZAK URAYA HAY DEKH LAIN KAY WOH KAHAN TAK JATA HAY;
DOSREE BAAT APP KAHA KAY SHALWAROON KO TO BILKUL PAJAMA HE BANA DIYA , TO YEH BHEE HUM HUKMAY RASOOL SAW KAY NATEEJAY MAIN KARTAY HAIN.APNEE TARAF SAY NAHIN.
APP JAISAY HEE NAAM NIHAD JIN KO SUNATOON SAY CHIR HAY , KE WAJAH SAY DEN MARK WALOON KO GHUSTAKHI KE JURAT HOWEE.

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