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Old 02-05-2005, 03:33 PM
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Asalam O Alekum Zaalim bhai...

Zaban key lehaz sey in dono alfaz(Naseeb Aur Nisbat) ka jo farak aap ney byaan kia bikul durust byaan kia no doubt key ye dono lafz zaban key lehaz sey aik dosrey sey mukhtalif hain...

Magar...naseeb key maeney jo urdu lughaat main miltey hain wo ye hain...

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so jo reply main ney dia wo issi maeney ki bunyad par dia jis ki waja sey ye confusion create ho gayi key main ney do mukhtalif zaban key alfaz ko aik keh dia ...aap ney iss taraf tawaja dila kar wazahat ka moka dia ..bohat shukar guzar hoon aur umeed karti hoon meri wazahat sey ab ye confusion remove ho jaye gi khush rahyie

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ye kia ker dia...main ne to apko perne ko kaha tha ap ne to check kerna shoroo ker dia...
ap teacher hain?
wase jo kuch unho ne kaha wo mujhko waqai main buhaaaat buhat buhat buhat buhat ziada pasand aya...unki tehrer buhat acchi hai...ghaltion k ilawa....apko kese lagi?
ghaltee jiski bhi ho uski nishandahee sahi waqt par ho jani chahyie iss tarah correction bar waqt ho jati hey aur confusions bhi khatam ho jati hain...
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mane to sirif ittna kehoon ga
khudi ko ker bulind itna kay her teqdir say pehllay
Kuda benday say kud puchay beta tari reza kya hey
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reply 2 filba sis!

nahin aisa nahin hai sis!actually AZMAISH to insaan ki zindagi ka maqsad hai.hum mehaz IBADAT k liye nahin bal k ik examination k liye aye hain k khushi & gham main hum out of control to nahin hote,ALLAH ko man'ne se inkar to nahin kerte...bus yahi...

matlab?takdeer pehle se nahin likhi?sab kuch ALLAH ki marzi se hota hai & us TAKDEER main alteration ho sakti hai MEHNAT & DUA se ager ALLAH chahe to.sometimes hum sochte hain k aisa nahin hona chahiye tha lakin hona wase hi chahiye hota hai kiyon k infact hum buhat kam aqal rakhte hain & ALLAH sab kuch janta hai.jo bhi hona ho ALLAH ko uska ilm hota hai...
ager ap mere point ko nahin samajh sakin to tell me main mazed clear ker donya shaid main apk point ko nahin samajh saki
ji expect nahin kerte lakin ho jata hai...yahi qismat hai lakin kabhi kabhi expectations pori bhi ho jati hain....aur kabhi nahin hotin to in donon ko qismat hi kahin ge...

ji bilkul lazmi nahin!lakin aisa hi hota hai buhat kam log age ja sakte hain & baqol WORTH BHAI wasail ki kami ki waja bhi a jati hai darmian main
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hmmm achi discussion horahi hai yaha....mujhe bih aney ki ijaazat hai???

mujhe qismat , taqdeer kai bare mai ziada Ilm nahi lekin ...mai iss baat per kehna chahti hoon,
kai Dua aik aisy chiez hai jo qismat badal sakti hai....lekin shaid takdeer nahi badal sakti....
shukerya!
ji bilkul ap bhi a jain apni rai batane k liye KHUSH AMDEED!
ok...but QISMAT badal jai to TAKDEER bhi badal jati hai...
donon ka apas main ik link hai....
qismat k badane se takdeer nahin badalti?iski thori se wazahat ker dain ok
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Asalam O Alekum Zaalim bhai...

Zaban key lehaz sey in dono alfaz(Naseeb Aur Nisbat) ka jo farak aap ney byaan kia bikul durust byaan kia no doubt key ye dono lafz zaban key lehaz sey aik dosrey sey mukhtalif hain...

Magar...naseeb key maeney jo urdu lughaat main miltey hain wo ye hain...

(NASEEB= qismat , makhsoos hissa jo kisi ki taraf mansoob ho)

so jo reply main ney dia wo issi maeney ki bunyad par dia jis ki waja sey ye confusion create ho gayi key main ney do mukhtalif zaban key alfaz ko aik keh dia ...aap ney iss taraf tawaja dila kar wazahat ka moka dia ..bohat shukar guzar hoon aur umeed karti hoon meri wazahat sey ab ye confusion remove ho jaye gi khush rahyie

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hmmm bat clear ho gai ab!
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ghaltee jiski bhi ho uski nishandahee sahi waqt par ho jani chahyie iss tarah correction bar waqt ho jati hey aur confusions bhi khatam ho jati hain...
ji bilkul sahee kaha apne
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aik aur baat...aur koi shakhs her waqt apni qismat ko rota rahe kai , haey meri qismat mai to yehi hai...to yeh bih ghalat hai....insaan kuch kere naa....aur uska ilzaam qismat ko de...yeh ghalat hai.- ameer ghareeb ki takdeer aur qismat ki jo baat hai qo kuch aur hai.....lekin jo aam maraa mai hum qismat ko dosh dete hain,yeh ghalaat hai.......qismat achi hi hoti hai, hum apni ghaltiou se aur hamakatou se ussey kharab ker deete hain.....aur waisey mera apna zaati yeh khiaal hai kai her waqt qismat ko zehan mai nahi rakhna chahiey.....
ji apka point bilkulll sahe hai sis
hum qismat ko dosh nahin de sakte...
humin zindagi kuch aise guzarni hai k TAKDEER k hone per pora bharosa bhi ho
& MEHNAT & DUA se NASEEB ko behter se behtaren banane ki tag-o-do bhi ho.....
ji bilkul ager QISMAT her waqt zehn per sawar rahe to yaqenan insaan mehnat se dil churai ga jo ghalat hai
wase thx 4 sharing ur rai
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hmmm good kaleem bhai!
yani QISMAT ko MEHNAT & DUA se badalne ki koshish aise karin k TAKDEER bhi badal jai!
abhi tak is thread ka result bhi yahi hai
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Asalam O Alekum Zaalim bhai...

Zaban key lehaz sey in dono alfaz(Naseeb Aur Nisbat) ka jo farak aap ney byaan kia bikul durust byaan kia no doubt key ye dono lafz zaban key lehaz sey aik dosrey sey mukhtalif hain...

Magar...naseeb key maeney jo urdu lughaat main miltey hain wo ye hain...

(NASEEB= qismat , makhsoos hissa jo kisi ki taraf mansoob ho)

so jo reply main ney dia wo issi maeney ki bunyad par dia jis ki waja sey ye confusion create ho gayi key main ney do mukhtalif zaban key alfaz ko aik keh dia ...aap ney iss taraf tawaja dila kar wazahat ka moka dia ..bohat shukar guzar hoon aur umeed karti hoon meri wazahat sey ab ye confusion remove ho jaye gi khush rahyie

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theek hai main tasleem kar leta hoon.
lekin saath saath ek guzarish hai ke agar aap kisi mufti ya aalim ya hadees ya qurani aayat ka hawala den jis se pata chalay ke taqdeer aur naseeb mein farq hota hai.
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mane to sirif ittna kehoon ga
khudi ko ker bulind itna kay her teqdir say pehllay
Kuda benday say kud puchay beta tari reza kya hey
kaleem bahi !
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app ko ik baat bata doon key mujeh to is sher sey hi iktilaf hay
Nauzbillah hmm is sher main mubalagha arai main is had tak bar jatey haan key keh jatey haan key Kuda bandey sey pochay nauzbillah.
idea is sher key peechay accha hay lakin is sher main ilfaz acchay istamal naeen keyah gaey.
yeh to khulam khula Allah ki khudai ko chellenge hay.
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nahin aisa nahin hai sis!actually AZMAISH to insaan ki zindagi ka maqsad hai.hum mehaz IBADAT k liye nahin bal k ik examination k liye aye hain k khushi & gham main hum out of control to nahin hote,ALLAH ko man'ne se inkar to nahin kerte...bus yahi...

matlab?takdeer pehle se nahin likhi?sab kuch ALLAH ki marzi se hota hai & us TAKDEER main alteration ho sakti hai MEHNAT & DUA se ager ALLAH chahe to.sometimes hum sochte hain k aisa nahin hona chahiye tha lakin hona wase hi chahiye hota hai kiyon k infact hum buhat kam aqal rakhte hain & ALLAH sab kuch janta hai.jo bhi hona ho ALLAH ko uska ilm hota hai...
ager ap mere point ko nahin samajh sakin to tell me main mazed clear ker donya shaid main apk point ko nahin samajh saki
ji expect nahin kerte lakin ho jata hai...yahi qismat hai lakin kabhi kabhi expectations pori bhi ho jati hain....aur kabhi nahin hotin to in donon ko qismat hi kahin ge...

ji bilkul lazmi nahin!lakin aisa hi hota hai buhat kam log age ja sakte hain & baqol WORTH BHAI wasail ki kami ki waja bhi a jati hai darmian main
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...shuker hai kahin to thik kaha
ji sahe!

hmm GOOD!
thanx for your reply me here sis
app ko ik baat bataoon key hmm dunia main azmaish key tor per naeen ayeh bulkey inam key tor per ayeh haan.
azmaish Allah sirf apney pasandeda logon per dalta hay. jo takwaey key lihaz sey bohat bar jatey haan.
hmm log is kabil naeen haan key ik paal key liya bi Allah ki azmaish key samney kharey ho sakeeen. is leya bar bar yeh kehna ghalat hay key ager Allah ney azmaish per dal dia to hmm gunagar log us azmaish per utarney key kabil naeen haan.
second yeh key app kia jowaz peesh kareen gee ager koi yeh kahee key main ney bora kam kia ,is leya key meray naseeb ya kismat main yahi likha tha so mera kia kasoor .
ager hmm yeh tasawer ker lain key taqdeer pehlay sey likhi hoi hay to pir us ka akharat main kis baat ki saza milay gi jab key yeh to pre defined tha key wo yeh ghalat kam to karey ga hi karey ga.
wo jitna marzi accha soch leta yeh ghalat kam to us sey hona hi hona tha.
pir to us ko kisi bi sorat main saza naeen di ja sakti.


Takdeer sirf itni hay key jab do persons ya us sey zeada persons ki mehnat apas main klash kerti hay to ik agey nikal jata hay and ik peechay rah jata hay
peechay rah janey wala hamesha yeh sochta hay key mein ney mehnat to bohat ki thee lain desired result is leya naeeen aa saka ,yeh meri takdeer thee , bat darasal yeh hay key dosray ki mehnat actually us ki mehnat sey zeada thee.

third Allah akharat tak honey waley tumam wakiat ko jantey haan. un ko maloom hay key kon kitni mehnat keray ga and result us ka kia niklay ga.
yeh ghaib ka ilm hay. baz log yeh keh detay haan key chonkey Allah ko maloom hay key result kia nikalay ga , is ka matlab hay key takdeer likhi hoi hay
jab key esa naeen hay . Allah kabi kisi ka haq naeen marta key kisi ko khamkha fail ya hara day. is main usi shaks ki kohtai hoti hay ager wo sahee taraeeqa sey dehk lay.

Dua sey yeh hota hay key Allah hamari kohsihoon ko pora honey main madad deta hay and 30 % jo dosron key mehnat hamari mehnat sey klash ker key hamara result kharab ker rahi hoti hay us ko dor rakhti hay.

ummeed hay key app ko baat samj aa gai ho gi.
ager naeen to try keejay ga key upper jo main ney sowal kia hay us ka jowab deejay ga key akhir ik gunagar ko saza keeon di jaey gi jab key us ki takdeer main likha ja chuka tha key wo gunna kareey ga , to is main us ka kia kasoor.
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theek hai main tasleem kar leta hoon.
lekin saath saath ek guzarish hai ke agar aap kisi mufti ya aalim ya hadees ya qurani aayat ka hawala den jis se pata chalay ke taqdeer aur naseeb mein farq hota hai.
Zaalim bhai...iss post main har aik ney jo bhi reply dia wo sab ney apni soch observations aur tajurbat ki bunyad par jawabat diye....
so jo jawab main ney dia uski jo wazahat di wo bhi bikul meri perceptions hain
main ney apney reply main kaheen bhi aisa nahi kaha key nauzbillah taqdeer aur naseeb ka do alehda cheezain hona quran sey sabit hey ya ye key 100% yehi bat hoti hey...NAHI....HARGIZ NAHI..........

yahan kuch doston ki raye key mutabiq taqdeer/naseb/qismat ye sab pehley sey kaheen likha nahi hota sab kuch bas aik dam sey ho jata hey.....
halankey aik muslamn ki hesiyat sey ham sab ka ye aqeeda hey key sab kuch pehley sey tay shuda hey.....

yahan sab apni zaati raye dey rahey hain jiss ka acha pehloo yehi hey key ham sab ko zyada sey zyada samjhney aur seekhney ka moka mil raha hey aur qismat waghera key hawaley sey har aik ka APNA tasawar samney aa raha hey....

main ney jo kaha key taqdeer aur naseeb do cheezain hain...to ye main ney quran main hazrat Aadam aur ablees key mutaliq byaan kardah tamseel key hawaley sey bat kahi....aur missal bhi issi ki di hey main ney.....

iss waqey ko parh kar mujhey yehi ahsas hua tha key TAQDEER atal hey Allah key akhtyaar main hey aur us ney ye taqdeer apni maklloq key nafs ko mad e nazar rakh kar likhi......

jab Ablees sey Aadam ko sajda sey inkaar kia aur wo apney munsab o buzargee sey hata dia gya to iski ye tazleel dekh ker baki tamam farishtey darey..to Allah ney un sey farmaya key dartey kion ho ? unhon ney jawab dia key aye malik kia ham tujh sey aur teri qahari sey khouf na khain? to Allah ney jawab dia bas younhi merey farmannbardar baney raho aur aur khouf na karo (yani atta'at ki soorat main tumhain ye fikar nahi honi chahyie key tumhara bhi ablees jesa hal hoga)

in sab baton sey yehi samjh aayi key TAQDEER to jo hey so hey Allah hi usey behtar janta hey....par jo hamara amal hey wo hamarey naseeb main rad o badal la sakta hey....
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Aik bat main ney iss post main bohat wazeh note ki key kafi sarey dost taqdeer/naseeb/qismat ko paisey ya doulat sey mashroot kar rahey hain....

kia serf paisa hona hi achi qismat ki alamat hey ?

kia jis key pass maal o doulat nahi uski qismat achi nahi ?

kia serf paisa hi qismat main tabdeeli laa sakta hey ?
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Aik bat main ney iss post main bohat wazeh note ki key kafi sarey dost taqdeer/naseeb/qismat ko paisey ya doulat sey mashroot kar rahey hain....

kia serf paisa hona hi achi qismat ki alamat hey ?

kia jis key pass maal o doulat nahi uski qismat achi nahi ?

kia serf paisa hi qismat main tabdeeli laa sakta hey ?
mujhe maloom tha ke koi na koi yeh point zaroor nikaalay ga.

mera jawaab is zaman mein yeh hai ke paise se qismat 100% to mashroot nahi hai lekin bohat had tak mashroot bhi hai.

paisa na ho magar khidmat karnay waali aulaad ho to voh bhi khush qismati hai.

lekin agar aulaad to khidmat karnay waali ho lekin aulaad ke paas paisa na ho to voh aap ki beemaari mein aap ka ilaaj kaise karwaye gi?
is tarah se paise ka bhi ek kirdaar aajaata hai. jis se inkaar mumkin nahi hai.

mohabbat karnay waalay maan baap hon lekin un ke paas itna paisa na ho ke apnai aulaad ko 2 vaqt ki roti pet bhar kar khila saken. to phir paise se qismat mashroot hojaati hai.
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