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Aslamualaikum Bhai Allahs Slave main aap say 100% mutafik hoon n Dr Zakir nay jo farmaya bilkul sach or hak famaya magar yah masla to 1400 saal say hal na ho saka to aap log kiyon bahas kar rahay hian theek hay jo hona tha ho gya ab un ko sacha ya jhoota sabit karnay say kuch faida na hasil hga balke hamain aaj kay masail par tavajaah deni chahye jo ab muslim umaah ko darpaish hian aap nojavano ko sochna paray ga aaj k halat par na k is bat ko sabit karte phirain k Shia n brelvies ka mokaf thee hay ya lashkare jhangvi n Ahle hadees+hanfiees ka brahe maharbani is ko ulma par chor dain main ab bhi dr zakir naik k sath bilkul mutafik hoon kyon k hamari tareek SHIA'S nay muratab ki hay....
BHAI JAAN MAGAR DR. ZAKIR NE TO SAKOOT IKHTIYAR NAHIN KIA UNHON NE IS JUNG KO SIYASI KAHA OR AAP US SE ITTEFAQ KERTE HAIN TO MATLAB AAP BHI IS KO SIYASI KEH RAHE HAIN BEHES MEN HISSA BHI LE RAHE HAIN OR BEHES NA KERNE KA BHI KEH RAHAY HAIN BAAT KUCH SAMAJH NAHIN AAI
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jamiya tirmazi babul manaqib (mnaqibe hazrat ABUBAKAR R.A) bab no. 548 hadith number 1609 page no.693

mishkat sharif kitabul fitun manaqibe abubakar r.a page no. 225
tirmazi nay is hadith ko hassan sahih likha hay..
mishkat sharif main ya hadith abudaod sharif kay hawlay say naqal hay
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jamiya tirmazi babul manaqib (mnaqibe hazrat ABUBAKAR R.A) bab no. 548 hadith number 1609 page no.693

mishkat sharif kitabul fitun manaqibe abubakar r.a page no. 225
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mishkat sharif main ya hadith abudaod sharif kay hawlay say naqal hay
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jamiya tirmazi babul manaqib (mnaqibe hazrat ABUBAKAR R.A) bab no. 548 hadith number 1609 page no.693

mishkat sharif kitabul fitun manaqibe abubakar r.a page no. 225
tirmazi nay is hadith ko hassan sahih likha hay..
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jamiya tirmazi babul manaqib (mnaqibe hazrat ABUBAKAR R.A) bab no. 548 hadith number 1609 page no.693

mishkat sharif kitabul fitun manaqibe abubakar r.a page no. 225
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mishkat sharif main ya hadith abudaod sharif kay hawlay say naqal hay
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میرے خیال کے مطابق اس سلسلے میں خاموشی بہتر ہے۔ حضرت امام حسین کی شہادت اس میں کوئی شک نہیں کہ عطیم ہے۔ لیکن دوسری طرف بھی جید صحابہ کرام موجود تھے۔ ہمیں تاریخ سے سبق سیکھنا چاہیے۔ اور اسلامی روداری اور عالمی اسلامی بھائی چارہ اپنانا چاہیے۔
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میرے خیال کے مطابق اس سلسلے میں خاموشی بہتر ہے۔ حضرت امام حسین کی شہادت اس میں کوئی شک نہیں کہ عطیم ہے۔ لیکن دوسری طرف بھی جید صحابہ کرام موجود تھے۔ ہمیں تاریخ سے سبق سیکھنا چاہیے۔ اور اسلامی روداری اور عالمی اسلامی بھائی چارہ اپنانا چاہیے۔
Asalam O Alikum,

jee bhai aap nein bilkul sahee kah - yahee baat to mein keh rah hoon ,lakin jo loog sakoot naheen kertee unn ka masla ya hai kay wo naheen chatee kay unn kay sutelee bhai shia(rafaidh) naraz na hoo jain - baqee iss mein behss kee zarorat naheen saab kuch wazeh hai -
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JazakAllah bhai bahoot umda tahqeeq hai
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JazakAllah Dr.Zakir Naik Haq ko khol kar paish karnay par main aap ko salam karta hoon.
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Jo Ulama Dr sahab ko challange kar rahe hain wo Ulama nahi jhula hain
jo Islam ki sahi tareeq bhi nahi jantay aur shiyaoon ki bayan karda mun gharagh tareeq ko zoor o shoor se bayan kartay hain .Aur JAB BHI KOI ULAMA HAQ UTHTA HAI AUR KHOL KHOL KAR HAQ BAAT BAYAN KARTA HAI TO YE PAIT PARAST DEEN FAROOSH MOLVI US PAR FATVAY LAGATAY HAIN .
YE ULAMA KAISAY HO SAKTAY HAIN JABKAY YE APNAY AAP KO SHIOON KI TAQLEED MAIN "MOULANA "KAHALWATAY HAIN HALANKAY MOULAH SIRF ALLAH HAI (SEE SURAH BAQRA LAST AYAT)INHEEN MOULVIOON K BARE MAIN ALLAH RAB UL IZAD NE IRSHAD FARMAYA ["AMIN WALOON HOSHIYAAR IN MOULVI AUR PEEROON KI AKSARYAT KA HAAL YE HAI K YE LOOGON KA MAAL KHATAY HAIN BATIL TAREEQON SE AUR UNHAIN ALLAH KI RAH SE BHI ROKTAY HAIN.(SURAH:TAUBA AYAT 34)
ALLAH SE DUA HAI K WO IN PAITH PARAST DEEN FAROSH MOUVION SE HUMAIN BACHAY. AAMEEM
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Aur JAB BHI KOI ULAMA HAQ UTHTA HAI AUR KHOL KHOL KAR HAQ BAAT BAYAN KARTA HAI TO YE PAIT PARAST DEEN FAROOSH MOLVI US PAR FATVAY LAGATAY HAIN .
YE ULAMA KAISAY HO SAKTAY HAIN JABKAY YE APNAY AAP KO SHIOON KI TAQLEED MAIN "MOULANA "KAHALWATAY HAIN HALANKAY MOULAH SIRF ALLAH HAI (SEE SURAH BAQRA LAST AYAT)INHEEN MOULVIOON K BARE MAIN ALLAH RAB UL IZAD NE IRSHAD FARMAYA ["AMIN WALOON HOSHIYAAR IN MOULVI AUR PEEROON KI AKSARYAT KA HAAL YE HAI K YE LOOGON KA MAAL KHATAY HAIN BATIL TAREEQON SE AUR UNHAIN ALLAH KI RAH SE BHI ROKTAY HAIN.(SURAH:TAUBA AYAT 34)
ALLAH SE DUA HAI K WO IN PAITH PARAST DEEN FAROSH MOUVION SE HUMAIN BACHAY. AAMEEM
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Jo Ulama Dr sahab ko challange kar rahe hain wo Ulama nahi jhula hain
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Jo Ulama Dr sahab ko challange kar rahe hain wo Ulama nahi jhula hain
jo Islam ki sahi tareeq bhi nahi jantay aur shiyaoon ki bayan karda mun gharagh tareeq ko zoor o shoor se bayan kartay hain
MOHTARAM JANAB AAP ZARA APNI ILMI QABLIYAT KI BAAT KAREN AAP KI ILMI HASIYAT KIA HAI
EK BAAT OR KE AAP NE APNI PESH KERDAH POSTS MEN LIKHA
(ALLAH RABBUL IZAD)
SAHI ALFAZ YEH HOTAY HAIN (ALLAH RABBUL IZZAT)

ULAMA KIA KEHTE HAIN WO SABIT HO GAYA AB MIRCHI IS BAAT PER LAGI HAI KE DR. ZAKIR GHALAT KESE HO GAYA
JAB DALAAIL PESH KIYE TO AAP KO MIRCHI LAG RAHI HAI
AAP NE KAHA YEH MOLVI SHIA KI TAQLEED KERTAY HAIN TO BHAI JAAN YEH KISI KE ABBA JI KA GHAR NAHIN YAHAN PER DALEEL SE BAAT HOTI HAI AAP KO CHAHIYE YAHAN PER DALEEL PESH KAREN
WERNA KISI KI YAZIDI KO KOI HAQUE NAHIN WO ULAMA PER KEECHAR UCHALAY
DALEEL PESH KIJIYE !!!
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jamiya tirmazi babul manaqib (mnaqibe hazrat ABUBAKAR R.A) bab no. 548 hadith number 1609 page no.693

mishkat sharif kitabul fitun manaqibe abubakar r.a page no. 225
tirmazi nay is hadith ko hassan sahih likha hay..
mishkat sharif main ya hadith abudaod sharif kay hawlay say naqal hay
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Asalam O Alikum,

jee bhai aap nein bilkul sahee kah - yahee baat to mein keh rah hoon ,lakin jo loog sakoot naheen kertee unn ka masla ya hai kay wo naheen chatee kay unn kay sutelee bhai shia(rafaidh) naraz na hoo jain - baqee iss mein behss kee zarorat naheen saab kuch wazeh hai -
SHAI KO SAGA KON HAI OR SOTELA KON HAI WO HUM JAANTE HAIN SHIA SAHABA KI SHAAN MEN GUSTAKHIYAN KERTAY HAIN OR KHARJI NABI KI SHAAN MEN

IS HISAB SE WO UN KE SAGAY HUE
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jamiya tirmazi babul manaqib (mnaqibe hazrat ABUBAKAR R.A) bab no. 548 hadith number 1609 page no.693

mishkat sharif kitabul fitun manaqibe abubakar r.a page no. 225
tirmazi nay is hadith ko hassan sahih likha hay..
mishkat sharif main ya hadith abudaod sharif kay hawlay say naqal hay
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شعیب بھائی خوارج کی تحریک نبی پاک (ص) کی شان میں گستاخی نہیں کرتے تھے۔
وہ علی (رض) کے خلاف تھے اور صحابہ کے بھی۔
مہ نبی پاک (ص) کو اسی طرح مانتے تھے جیسے آپ اور ہم۔
میرے خیال میں آپ کو ان کی تاریخ کو صحیح معنوں میں پڑھنا پڑے گا۔
اگر خوارج نبی (ص) کی گستاخی کرتے تھے تو آپ اس کا ثبوت پیش کریں۔
اور دوسری بات کہ کوئی مسلمان نبی پاک (ص) کی شان میں گستاخی نہیں کرسکتا۔
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galat kaha zakirnaik ne .
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شعیب بھائی خوارج کی تحریک نبی پاک (ص) کی شان میں گستاخی نہیں کرتے تھے۔
وہ علی (رض) کے خلاف تھے اور صحابہ کے بھی۔
مہ نبی پاک (ص) کو اسی طرح مانتے تھے جیسے آپ اور ہم۔
میرے خیال میں آپ کو ان کی تاریخ کو صحیح معنوں میں پڑھنا پڑے گا۔
اگر خوارج نبی (ص) کی گستاخی کرتے تھے تو آپ اس کا ثبوت پیش کریں۔
اور دوسری بات کہ کوئی مسلمان نبی پاک (ص) کی شان میں گستاخی نہیں کرسکتا۔
MOHTARAM JANAB

MEN NE HAMESHA DALAIL PER BAAT KI OR JAB BHI BAAT KI US KA HMESHA SABOOT PESH KIA OR ULAMA KE SIGNATURE KE SAATH AAP NE ITNI POST MEN KOI BHI ESI DALEEL DI JI PER AAP KE ULAMA KE SIGNATURE HON ???
ALHAMDULILLAH YEH HAMARAY UALAMA KA KHASA HAI IS TARAH TO HAR KOI LAFFAZI KER SAKTA HAI OR KERTA BHI HAI BAAT MEN WAZAN TAB HI HOTA HAI JAB US KI DALEEL PESH KI JAE
MEN AAP SE EK SAWAL POOCHNA CHAHTA HOON IS KE BAAD AAPKI POST KA JAWAB DOONGA WO BHI INSHAALLAH HAWALA JAAT BHI PESH KAROONGA
KIA AAP KHARIJION KE HAAMI HAIN ????

HAAN BILKUL SAHI KAHA AGAR CHE WO GUSTAKHI SE PEHLE MUSALMAN HOGA MAGAR GUSTAKHI KERNE KE BAAD WO MUSALMAN NAHIN REHTA
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jamiya tirmazi babul manaqib (mnaqibe hazrat ABUBAKAR R.A) bab no. 548 hadith number 1609 page no.693

mishkat sharif kitabul fitun manaqibe abubakar r.a page no. 225
tirmazi nay is hadith ko hassan sahih likha hay..
mishkat sharif main ya hadith abudaod sharif kay hawlay say naqal hay
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شعیب صاحب آپ کی باتیں پڑھ کر مجھے ہنسی کے علاوہ کچھ نہیں آرہا۔
آپ کیسے کسی مسلمان سے پوچھ سکتےہیں کہ آپ خارجی ہیں۔۔۔۔؟
اگر میں آپ سے پوچھوں کہ کیا آپ سلمان رشدی کے مرید ہیں تو آپ کو کیسے لگے گا۔۔۔؟
خير یہاں ٹاپک خارجیوں کا نہیں بلکہ يزید بن معاویہ رضی اللہ عنہ کے بارے میں تھا اور آپ پلیز ٹاپک کو چينج مت کریں۔
خارجیوں کا ال|گ تھریڈ شروع کریں تو بات ہوگی۔ ان شاءاللہ
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