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#21
10-11-2005, 04:13 PM
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yeh bateen key jo no muslim 5 wakat ki nimaz pertay haan , un key bachpan main to koi un ka Father un ko daily masjid main ley ker naeen gia hota , koi adat un ki naeen bani hoti pir wo keeon pertay haan nimazeen app key bakool nimaz sirf ik adat key tehat peri jati hay to meray bahi wo nimaz naeen hoti sirf takreen hoti haan. adat and nimaz ko mix na kareen. second ik non muslim ager 5 wakat ki nimaz perta hay halankey us key parents nay us ko adat naeen dalwai thee , so is tarah parent bi 100% kasorwar naeen , ager un ki ulad naeen perti. Hazrat Noh ki ulad na farman thee, kia app key khial main Hazrat Noh (AS) acchay father naeen they, app key father , ik nabi Hazrat Noh (AS) sey acchay father haan ? Ager Bachpan say Tarbiyat Achi Hoo to sab Kuch Set rehta [/quote] Hazrat Ummar (RA) and degar sahaba to pedaishi muslim naeen they. Hazarat Ibrahim (AS) key father nay un ki kis tarah tarbeat kernay ki koshih ki thee, un ki keeon naeen adat bani boton ko poja kernay ki Quote:
lakin yeh kehna key ager wo ba perda ho ker naeen aeen gaeen to hmm ghortey hi rehaneen gay. to app key lya arz hay key Quran main khwateen key hijab sey pehlay merdon key hijab key baren main aya hay Quran main Allah (SWT) surah Noor main farmatey haan "Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do." [Al-Qur’an 24:30] momin merdon sey keh do key wo apni nigaen neechi rakeen aur apni sharmgahoon ki hifazat kareen, yeh un key liya bohat hi pakeza baat hay beshak Allah un key kamoon sey bakhabar hay [Al-Qur’an 24:30] ab yeh dehkain key is key baad Allah (Swt) farmata hay agli ayat main khawateen key liya , means key pehlay mard apni nighaoon ki neechay kareen pir The next verse of Surah Noor, says: " And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons..." [Al-Qur’an 24:31] aur momin aurton sey keh key apni nigaeen neechi rakheen and apni sharamgaoon ki hifazat kareen aur apni zenat zahir na kareen siwaey us key jo zahir hay aur apni aurhnian apnay gireybanoon per dal rakeen and apni zeenat zahir na kareen mager un per.... apney khawand, apney baap, betoon............................................ .......... [Al-Qur’an 24:31] Akhir main yeh kahoon ga key perda sirf khawateen key liya naeen hay merd and aurat dono key liya hay and merd key liya zeada keeon key moasrahy main lazmi naeen key sirf muslim khawateen hoon geen non muslim bi ho sakti haan and app ko maloom hay key non muslim khawateen to kabi perda naeen kerain geen. so merd ko khawateen sey zeada perda kerna chayeh 
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10-11-2005, 04:21 PM
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actually yeh problem hi us wakat sey peda hona shorow hoi hay jab sey charay key perday ko islami hijab sey milaya gia hay. jis sey is tarah key fitna war larkian etc ney faida uttana shorow kia hay key nikab sey wo pechani naeen jaeen geen. jab tak loog asal islami hijab ko naeen pechantey is tarah ki harkateen to hoti raheen geen
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10-11-2005, 04:31 PM
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meri walda, sisters, cousins sab log perda kertay haan , sab chayeh aktay and hazar aur aurteen aktay burka ker kay aa jaeen , main to asani sey pechan jata hoon key yeh meri ammi haan , yeh meri sis and etc. burka kabi identity naeen chupata , burkay ka kaam hijab kerna hota hay. takey un ki hifazat ho sakey aur momin aurton sey keh key apni nigaeen neechi rakheen and apni sharamgaoon ki hifazat kareen aur apni zenat zahir na kareen siwaey us key jo zahir hay aur apni aurhnian apnay gireybanoon per dal rakeen and apni zeenat zahir na kareen mager un per.... apney khawand, apney baap, betoon............................................ .......... [Al-Qur’an 24:31] so ager kisi ko yeh khial hay key burkey sey identity chup sakti hay wo yeh kheal dil sey nikal dey
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10-11-2005, 04:34 PM
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tali dunoo hath sey bajti hay wasey app ko bata doon ager yeh azeem kaam ik dafa app ker dain geen to kafi aur behnoo ka faida bi ho jaeey ga  
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10-11-2005, 04:41 PM
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larkoon and larkion dono ko kahoon ga key app muslim haan and muslim ka source of insparation Quran and sunnat hay app ko is sey perwa naeen honi chayeh key dosra kia ker raha hay larkian ager perda kareen ya na kareen app apni nigaeen nechi rakeen larkey ghoreen ya na ghorren app hijab zaroor kareen ager app ka dil chiray ka perda kernay ka naeen kerta. dosri larki ager perday ka ghalat istmal ker rahi hay to us ka gunnah us key sar , us ki saza app ko naeen milay gi. app saheey tareeqay sey hijab kareen so idher udher dehk ker dil ko tasaleen denay ki jaga , larkoon and larkion dono ko perda /hijab kerna chayeeh
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10-11-2005, 10:29 PM
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Asalam o Alikum filba4
Non-Muslim ko jab Deen-e-islam ki samaj Ai jati hai to tab he Islam Qabool kerta hai wesay nahe us k Ander Allah ka dar Ai jata hai Muslim ko Islam ( Virasat ) may Milta hai Ager Dheka Jay or Ager Walid Nimaz nahe Pertey to Beta Nahe perta zaida ter Mother Nimaz perti hain to un ki Bachi be perti hai ISB may kai Girls Be-Parda Perti hain Muger us ISB may kai Girls Ba-Parda be Hoti hain or un k sath un ki Great Mother be Hoti hain jo kud be parda may Hoti hain.. Jab Walida Parda nahe kerian ge to Beati kesay keray ge us ka to Concepet he nahe Banay gaaa ?????? Yahaan Muslims ko Nimaz perna be nahe Aiti Hai jis Din Zalzila Aiya us Din masjid may un logoon ko Dheka jin ko Nimaz may Hath Bandna be Nahe aitey They to kia wo Non-Muslim they ? Nahe Nahe wo Muslim he They Muger na Bachpan nay Nimaz Seeki na Peri to Aiti kesay ?????? Nimaz Aik Aadat nahe Allah Mujay Mauf keray Nimaz Aik Aadabat hai or Jis cheez ko Bachpan may kia jay wo kabi Chuti nahe 
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10-12-2005, 01:06 AM
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10-13-2005, 10:18 PM
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app ney bohat hi acchi baat ki jo main na keh saka key nimaz ik abadat hay na key adat so adat key tehat naeen , ibadat smaj ker perni chayeh bohat hi acchi baat ki hay app ney second moktalif andaz main nimaz pernay ki jahan tak baat hay to us key liya sirf itna arz karoon ga. key in tumam tareeqon sey Hazoor PBUH ney nimaz peri thee, jo dosray ilaqoon sey sahaba atey they and Hazoor PBUH ko us time jis tarah nimaz pertay dehktay they , woi tareeqa ja ker apney ilaqey main batatey they so Allah ney apney nabi PBUH key her amal ko zinda rakha hay jis main nimaz bi hay. is leya yeh kehna key wo nimaz ka tareeqa ghalat hay , hamara 100% true. to shayed wo durust na ho ga. ab meray sath jesay problem hay key main search ker raha hoon key Hazoor PBUH ney last nimaz kis tarah peri abi tak mujeh naeen mila. athentic ki baat ker raha hoon. is leya meray nazdeek to kisi key bi nimaz key tareeqay ko ghalat naeen kehna chayeh. second main ney jo waldein sey asar wali baat ki hay wo bi app key 100% kehnay ki waja sey kahi hay. beshak waldein ka asar hota hay lakin , us ko 100% kehna sahih na ho ga.
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#31
10-25-2005, 04:40 AM
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kuch loog darhi rakh k buray kaam kartay hai tu es ka matlab yeh tu nahin k dhar darhi waala shaks bura hai?? ussi tarhan parda karna har muslim girl pe farz hai ab chahay ham manain ya na main,aur jo larki bura kaam karnay k liay parda karti hai uski wajja se parda ko badnaam nahin karna chahiye. yaar ajkal loog baray khraab ho gay hain ,khouf-e-khuda naam ko tu koi cheez nahin hai,hat-dharmi se buray kaam kiay jaatay hain aur phir bayaan bhi kartay hain,loog jhothay quraan uthatay hain,jhoothi qasmain khatay hain aur khud ko naik zahir k karkay yeni k parda karkay k buray kaam kartay hain.   aur tu aur ramadan aur rozay k saath bhi ghalat kaam karnay se baaz nahin aatay. ab es situation main zazalay he aanay hain na  aur ab tu elae naami jaga pr aik paharh main se dhuaan nikal raha hai,ab agr aatish fishaan phat para tu.....???? yeh sab ALLAH ka azaab hai hamain sambhal jana chaheye,ALLAH se touba kar leni chaheye
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10-25-2005, 04:55 AM
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--------------------- VeRy VeRy NiCE ShaRiNG and Gre8T Thinks God Give you Many thinks something like that That's my Prey for you! Thanks
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WaFa agAr kHoOn Ke riShtoOn mAy hOTi
TuO YousuF nA BikTa MiSer K BaZaRoON maY
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10-27-2005, 11:01 AM
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10-27-2005, 11:02 AM
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10-28-2005, 11:34 PM
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Assalmaoalikum Sab Members ko!
Sis Aapnay achi sharing ki hai ... per maine aik cheez note ki woh yeh thi k saara ilzaam larki per lagaya gaya hai jo baaparda hoker uska faida uthatay howe kisi na mehram ki saath gaye thi ... per us larkay ko kuch nahi kaha jiskayliye woh baapardah larki bhi na mehram thi ... jisay woh apnay saath laykar gaya hoga ... jisnay us larki k sath sath khud bhi us parday ka faida uthaya ... usko aapnay kuch nahi kaha? ... mujhay maloom hai k aap baat sirf un larkiyo ki karrahi hain jo is cheez ka faida uthati hain aur ghalat istimal karti hain ... lekin yahan sirf larkiyo ka zikr karna thik nahi hoga kyunke in kaamo main jahan larki ka jitna haath hota hai wahan larkay ka bhi utna hi hota hai ... larkiyo ka hijab to apni jagah theek lekin larko k hijab ki koi baat kyun nahi karta? ... hamesha larkiyo aur aurto per hi kyun ungli uthaye jati hai ? ... jabkay dekha gaya hai k larki/aurat chahay kitnay bhi parday main ho ... aadmi usay phir bhi ghoorta hai aur yeh haqeeqat hai ... jab bhi hamesha hijab k silsilay main koi baat hoti hai to larkiyo aur aurto ko hi nishana banaya jata hia ... jiski wajah se un aadmiyo ko choot milgaye jinhe kuch nahi kaha jaata ... isliye mujhe filba4 brother ki baat bohat achi lagi jo main kehna chahti thi k mardo ko pehlay hijab ka hukum aya uskay bad aurto ko ... agar mard apni nigahay neechay rakhai aur ghoornay k kaam main itna apni aankho ko takleef na dain to sab se behter yehi hai ... jo yeh kehtay hain k larkiyan bazaro main bay pardah hoker nikalti hain to zahir hai mard to unko dekhayga hi ... to unsay guzarish hai k yehi to imtihan hai mardo ka ... larkay ko her soorat main apni nigaho ki hifazat karni hai chahay larki parda karay ya na karay .. aap ko apna farz poora karna hai ... aap iska ilzaam poora poora larki per nahi laga saktay ... aur larkiyan bhi apni nazro ki hifazat karain kyunkay aajkal larkay larkiyan ban gaye hain ... khoobsurti larko main bhi hoti hai ... isliye basic cheez aapni righteousness aur nazray hain k kis tarhan aap unko sambhal k rakhain ... jo sahi hijab karti hain aur jo nahi karti uska hisab ALlah taala qayamat main lay laingay ... hamain apnay hijab ko sahi istimal karna hai aur kisi aik ko qasoor waar nahi tehraana hai ... kyunke bohat bara haath larko ka bhi ismain hota hai ... akhir main quran ki aik ayat dekhleejiye! [7:26] "O children of Adam, we have provided you with garments to cover your bodies, as well as for luxury. But the best garment is the garment of righteousness. These are some of GOD's signs, that they may take heed." This is the BASIC thing ... yeh sab k ander ajaye to itni mushkilaat na hon ...
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[2. Surah Al-Baqarah : Ayah 195] "And do good. Lo! Allah loveth the beneficent."
Last edited by SaiMa.Ali; 10-28-2005 at 11:36 PM.
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